Perhaps they should bold or indent the characters instead of capitalize them like that. You will be greeted with the KDM login screen, able to only login as root, at first. LindowsOS uses XFree 4. Of course, on my machine, these included Nvidia drivers would crash LindowsOS completely, the exact same way as Red Hat 8. And you know what the funny part is? After that point, I did not experience any LindowsOS crashes. After doing so, I was able to login properly. There were very few applications installed by default, no Kedit, not an easier-to-use text-based editor other than VI for the times we have screwed up with X — it happens to all, admit it , not even the KDE calculator.
Also, there is no Office suite to be found. The Netscape 7. LindowsOS comes with kernel 2. Also, they have simplified Kicker and it does not include virtual desktops you can easily put them back though.
Unfortunately, Konqueror for me was unstable. I could easily crash it I think I crashed it about times in less than a week and in some cases I would have to logout and log back in, in order to be able to reload it! The KMenu includes a new option found only on LindowsOS, which is a program that lets you kill any open window.
One thing that surprised me in the beginning was the absense of Lindows-specific preference panels. I had to check a checkbox to force the app and show me all the possible X resolutions before I was able to setup my monitor the way I wanted to! More over, that panel does not include resolutions found on some new laptops or Trinitron monitors for 2 years now exotic maybe, but still a limitation of the system.
The Networking panel was pretty good and it was easy to setup and restart networking on the fly. There is also a tab on that panel for wireless configuration and PPPoE.
So, except these three Lindows-specific panels, there are no other preference panels for hardware to be found. Also, there are no other useful tools like an automounter or an integrated firewall.
Click-N-Run is actually a nice service. I was able to install more than applications this week, and they all installed fine. However, CnR is not perfect. The UI is weird and limited: it does not let me resume a broken download, even if the backend is actually wget which allows such a feature. And it is dumb: it re-downloads packages all the time, even if the application was downloaded but not successfully installed it happened three times with StarOffice — and we are talking about MB here.
However, the main problems of CnR are the applications themselves. The quality, versioning and availability of application is extremely limited. KOffice is offered in pieces you download each component like KWord or KSpread individually and it is still on version 1. I am sure that LindowsOS would have more quality applications to offer if they put more people to work in the CnR department.
More applications need to be decided and brought in there are many popular, quality applications missing from CnR , compiled, tested and uploaded to CnR.
Crux does not go well with Keramik — it is dark gray and unsuitable to the default KDE theme. Another problem was that some paths on AbiWord was wrong or something, and Abiword was keep complaining about some fonts. The rest applications I installed via CnR, were installed fine and with no issues. Last problem I have with CnR is that you need to be root to be able to install anything. Of course, this is the Unix way only the superuser can install OS-wide applications , but CnR should find a way to install packages for the specific user as well as for all users.
It should at least ask upon installation. This is how MacOSX and WinXP work, and I believe that this way offers flexibility and power to the plain user without having to rely on a sysadmin or break the whole system.
Most people who are whining against LindowsOS have no clue what Lindows. They see LindowsOS as an unethical Linux distro. LindowsOS is not your traditional Linux distro. It was never meant to be one. This is why functionality on Lindows is so limited always root, very few pref panels, very few options in general. It is meant to be this way.
LindowsOS is not for geeks and it was never meant to be a product for them. In fact, you sir, you that you are reading this article right now on OSNews, a site primarily populated by geek readers and developers, you would probably never have a real interest running LindowsOS other than for pure curiosity! It does not come with developer tools, Lindows. However, for people like my brother, my cousins and the rest of the non-geek customers, LindowsOS can position itself favorably, and I personally welcome this product to that specific market.
Other readers were unhappy by the fact that Lindows. This situation has angered some readers. However, there is a problem here. While in order to launch CnR you have to give your root password and I did so after installing Star Office 6, only the root user was setup with the application and it was the only user that could run the app. Again though, I have this feeling that Lindows. In this issue, I will have to fully agree with the… usual suspects I mean, whiners ;.
Whatever Lindows. CnR feels restricted not many apps, neither newest versions , limited not enough CnR-application options, UI is weird at times and buggy crashed it twice already, StarOffice was a pig to get it installed with fast cable line. And at the end of the day, we should not be forgetting that the kind of people who will buy a PC with LindowsOS on it, have no clue how to use the included apt-get.
Their only solution to enrich their OS with needed apps, will have to be CnR, as it is unfortunate that the default installation of LindowsOS has very few applications in it I wish they would include KOffice 1.
But they will need to enrich their OS with more default applications that make sense to be there and add value to the OS itself. They should also stop pushing CnR so much to the point that it becomes painful to the potential customer, fix bugs, include more recent and more apps in general on CnR and be a bit more serious and professional at places.
Oh, and Lindows needs a system like Lycoris, Windows and OSX already have and it is truly convienient, than having to re-install the whole OS every 2 months when Lindows. You have the technology already CnR. Use it! Update: I was just told that there is such a feature. And it is truly ironic that an effectively, internet appliance as LindowsOS really is , does not update itself via the web. Installation: 9. First impressions matter a great deal and if on their first use it gets cracked because of security holes that could kill a moose or perhaps crashes more than XP on the same machine, linux as a whole will probably get a trashy reputation for it.
Give the coders more caffeine brfore the next release, hopefully it should help. Red Hat 8. The whole must-rewrite-mbr is also a big turnoff. Seems like lycoris or even red hat with some help would be a better option. Lycoris too mostly because they only include Qt apps, so it is easier for them , but its font rendering suck big time read our review of Lycoris for more explanation of the issue. As for SuSE, they are not too bad, but they can do better. Almost forgot. The download speed was not too bad.
It was fine I would think so. Xandros is pitched slightly more to a business user but it is, like Lycoris and Lindows another attempt at an idiot proof linux like distro. I really disliked an earlier version of Lycoris that I tried and your review of Lindows extinguishes any bit of curiosity I might have about trying it although I might recommend it to my sister and mother—AOL users both.
Xandros also uses dated packages and has even less of a choice of applications on its version of CnR than does Lindows but it is bundled with Crossover Office and the file manager makes up for a lot of sins. So if you were going to maroon your mother or sister on a desert island with either Lindows or Xandros, which and why? The file manager is a bit of the same, just a newer version. KDE 3. Tough one… I find the two distros pretty similar in the end, from any point of view… Lycoris stacks up the same as well, it just has more control over hardware and preferences, but it lacks other things that Xandros and Lindows do have.
Heh… funny. If this review was written for Red Hat, Mandrake or any other distribution that has an established fan-base, all the closed-minded trolls would have been attacking Eugenia as they have in the past. Now, because this great review was for Lindows, a distro that most dislike for political reasons rather than practical ones, everyone is playing it cool.
Thanks for yet another great review Eugenia. I trust you will continue writing from time to time after your leave. One question to RH8…. RH8 is my favorite distro, but the multi-media support is very disapointing, especially for newbies. Both are very easy to install and are very well integrated into the OS.
They already do! Very nice review!!! Thanks for that! Greets from Germany. Fascinating review, Eugenia. I have not tried Lindows, but have thought about it based on the posts by so many Lindows users here and in other places extolling the virtues of CNR, the easy installation etc. But, after reading your review, it sounds like there are some major bugs and flaws present in the system. I was most interested in the fact that there are not really any Lindows-created gui tools. I have tried Xandros and Lycoris and both of those companies have worked hard in creating their own tools to help the newbie out.
I can say that Lindows has improved quite a bit since beta 1 though. Click N Run has improved alot. I have not experienced any download problems yet. Looking at things from the Joe User point of view, it is especially impressive that downloads go automatically into the menu categories they should be in.
The fact that you get almost no software with the basic install is as bad as getting too much software in the big distros. But, of course, Click N Run is the hook. That is suicide. Lindows is makng a splash, but my heart is with Lycoris.
Lindows checks for system updates once a day and at every boot up. If you look close in CNR you will see updates on the left side at the bottom. I did a CNR update from version 2 to 3. In fact I have never had any of the problems that you mentioned.
Phillip from ntcomaptible. It actually addresses some of the questions the Linux crowd has, but if you can read it from top to bottom, you will get the general idea. Like you, I wanted to try it I think it had great potential Problem is, hes trying to lock up selling software with Click N Run and really isnt offering much with it, and at a hefty price And people hate Bill Gates Well Windows wasnt built off a current open source OS.
Lindows isn't that great, if you want a start with Linux I would recommend Slackware or in VMWare Slackware, or on another HDD slackware, or anotehr comptuer slackware, or another network slackware, or Slackware r0x0r j00! First distro and I truly reccomend it over anything, install was a breeze ncurses based install like FBSD, nice. Vlad , Mar 3, Show me the download page where it is freely downloadable please? Thanks in advance for sharing with us where on Lindows.
It would be great if this was true, but its news to me. Any searches come up with old non working warez links or links to Lindows. Also, while searching, I found WinLinux, similar name, simlar idea, downloadable as free or from their website for 9 dollars with no support, 29 with lifetime support, any chance you got your Linuxes confused? Anyway, in the future, it would be easier for us all to back it up with legit download sites, rather then a liscense, one which can be easily worked around, ask any Linux geek about getting the source code to Lindows Let us know, otherwise I believe the only confusion so far would be your own post.
Major Attitude , Mar 3, In theory yes, Lindows is just Debian with WineX, but it's not OSS, one of these days it'll get sued, I'm waiting for the day MA was right, it's not freely released legally, Lindows "the unstability of windows, the incomptability of linux".
Well, as I was saying, those things can be gotten around. Sadly, the downside to an Open Source project as large as Linux is sooner or later someone will attempt to profit from it. Its a real shame too, Lindows had potential, but it has give me money over and over and attempts to make people stay at Lindows.
My thought would be that the source would cost so much no one would buy it, that website I linked to above confirms that is legit, the question is, can Lindows say they are charging the "annual fee" for support only? Oh well, all that from a linux newbie i toss that in just so no one assumes I am speaking Gospel, I am speaking what I think I have learned so far, so correct me if i am wrong It is fascinating, somehow I expect to spend a lot more time tinkering with Linux.
I just got WinLinux ugh and Mandrake is next on my testing plate and then maybe Lycoris From what I read Mandrakes is supposed to be pretty cool.. Ok, im blabbering.. Slackware 9. Vlad , Mar 4, Speaking of Mandrake, Release Candidate 2 of Mandrake 9. Some commecial disitributions like Xandros Desktop comes already with Crossover Office.
Philipp , Mar 4, It does not offer a download link, but rather says if you have paid, or purchased a pc with it, you can have the source. So, even the source isnt being freely distributed. Weird, huh? Seems odd that someone has not made the source available so someone can recompile it and give it away, though, no? The project founder is Michael Robertson. Releases: — 0. Lindows 2. Web site: lindows. This website uses cookies to improve your experience.
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